tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post5914790340048523568..comments2024-03-22T22:05:52.249+01:00Comments on Megas Alexandros: A wonderful analysis of Kasta Hill/Amphipolis by Andrew ChuggArgyraspidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-59403225798937119912014-10-30T22:07:55.745+01:002014-10-30T22:07:55.745+01:00That is correct. We can only guess as to what happ...That is correct. We can only guess as to what happened afterwards. Were the Macedonian people brave enough to organize a decent funeral for their queen in spite of Cassander's wrath, who knows. The problem with history is that we only have those stories that came to us over the centuries as so many more have been lost over time. Shifting truth from fiction, legends from hear-say is extremely difficult after 2,500 years.<br />I honestly wouldn't bet on any of the options, would you?Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-1404547378164783982014-10-30T19:19:16.623+01:002014-10-30T19:19:16.623+01:00It is said that Olympiada was hated so much that w...It is said that Olympiada was hated so much that when she was executed she was not buried and was left exposed, the ultimate degredation in that culture. Dodobirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04466800300001670671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-53460119403385231932014-09-11T20:04:22.962+02:002014-09-11T20:04:22.962+02:00Yes isn't it? We are slowly creeping forward!Yes isn't it? We are slowly creeping forward! Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-39846870716277452812014-09-11T18:19:36.240+02:002014-09-11T18:19:36.240+02:00Magnificent!!!!!!!
http://www.crashonline.us/amph...Magnificent!!!!!!!<br /><br />http://www.crashonline.us/amphipolis-caryatids-fully-revealed-photos/BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-58684748485753166512014-09-11T15:00:08.041+02:002014-09-11T15:00:08.041+02:00Critical announcements on Amphipolis tomb expected...Critical announcements on Amphipolis tomb expected on Thursday and Friday<br /><br />http://www.tovima.gr/en/article/?aid=630363BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-81398550455519316072014-09-11T09:38:04.449+02:002014-09-11T09:38:04.449+02:00This is the link where Bannister got this text fro...This is the link where Bannister got this text from: http://en.protothema.gr/amfipolis-a-long-story-of-exploitation-and-theft-revealed/<br />Nothing new under the sun ...Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-70107793269849847292014-09-11T02:41:32.985+02:002014-09-11T02:41:32.985+02:00“They buried them in the morning and in the evenin...“They buried them in the morning and in the evening they will steal of them. Where there was gold they opened a hole and took it. Some say that the Romans trained monkeys … and monkeys did the job, the picking and then took the takings to a hole. The holes were not made randomly the nine … out of ten in Amphipolis did this job and many died from the fumes. ”BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-32297074291154359952014-09-10T17:51:12.134+02:002014-09-10T17:51:12.134+02:00That is just unfounded rumours. That is what was d...That is just unfounded rumours. That is what was discussed in the link that Boro provided (in Greek).Planethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909074465181413678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-89896841063801910702014-09-10T17:26:17.988+02:002014-09-10T17:26:17.988+02:00I am quite interested by the inscriptions they now...I am quite interested by the inscriptions they now have transferred to the Museum of Amphipolis...Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-1075608995712783162014-09-10T16:59:11.574+02:002014-09-10T16:59:11.574+02:00http://en.protothema.gr/breaking-news-two-inscript...http://en.protothema.gr/breaking-news-two-inscriptions-found-in-the-tomb-of-amphipolis/BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-52318779126763006822014-09-10T16:47:50.145+02:002014-09-10T16:47:50.145+02:00Maybe a part of the broken Shinxes reused as build...Maybe a part of the broken Shinxes reused as building material by Christians havingplundered the grave to strengthen the wall of their church?<br /><br />"M. Charles Picard a retrouvé cet été au inusée de Budapest un document archéologique qu'on croyait perdu. Il s'agit d'un bas-relief d'Amphipolis (Macédoine), représentant une sphynge tricéphale - dite sphynge ponthée - qui était demeuré longtemps enclavé dans le mur d'une église. Ce document avait été signalé au début du XIXe siècle par un de nos consuls de Salonique. M. Cousinéry, qui en avait laissé un croquis fort inexact. Il avait disparu depuis et on ne gardait de ce monstre du IIe siècle de notre ère que ce mauvais dessin." <br /><br />Le Monde. 1957BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-13410649377170064132014-09-10T16:31:29.522+02:002014-09-10T16:31:29.522+02:00Attention, this information is to be taken with pa...Attention, this information is to be taken with pairs of tweezers : I got a Greek friend on the phone who owes me that convincing elements could indicate that the grave " would have been initially built for Alexander and that Roxanne and Alexander IV would have been buried there". He also speaks about a "grave of big dimension" which would confirm the tomography of the Kasta-Hill. So....BANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-31516087970979490102014-09-10T15:12:02.388+02:002014-09-10T15:12:02.388+02:00"The Greek authorities have enhanced the secu..."The Greek authorities have enhanced the security measures around the tomb in Amphipolis, adding members of the special units of the Greek police to the existing security. It is significant that the measures are starting at a distance of 800 metres around the tomb." <br /><br />Special units? Is it usual to deploy special forces in this occasion? <br /><br />"According to the Greek media that refer to representatives of the local government bodies, and they, in turn, to participants in the excavations, the team have discovered two slabs with inscriptions that may provide information about the person(s) laid in the tomb".<br /><br />And further:<br /><br />"Meanwhile, the online edition of "Ethnos" newspaper reports that archaeologists found today three architraves with preserved colours. According to the text, they have been transferred to the museum in Amphipolis for restoration. " <br /><br /> - See more at: http://www.grreporter.info/en/slabs_inscriptions_found_amphipolis/11677#sthash.5inLifKd.dpufBANNISTERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14637754608742179091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-19458211022014682502014-09-10T14:58:28.995+02:002014-09-10T14:58:28.995+02:00Yeap! There we go again! If they go on like this n...Yeap! There we go again! If they go on like this nobody will believe what will be disclosed, neither by the journalists, nor by the Ministry of Culture.<br />It saddens me deeply....Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-25734426229942085122014-09-10T14:44:22.630+02:002014-09-10T14:44:22.630+02:00Lots of rumours comes from news websites from the ...Lots of rumours comes from news websites from the local region around Amphipolis. Those websites and their journalists get a much larger number of visitors and visibility compared to earlier times, and I assume they do not manage to handle well their enthusiasm that comes with all this, and publish anything that they think it has even a tiny possibility to be true.Planethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909074465181413678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-77392743764835739322014-09-10T13:47:31.224+02:002014-09-10T13:47:31.224+02:00Ok, thanks. if it is not told by the ministry, the...Ok, thanks. if it is not told by the ministry, there seems to be careful with what you read. Disinformation for what? or is it just bad journalistic practiceBorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669230900195505765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-73134094666559764342014-09-10T13:28:52.332+02:002014-09-10T13:28:52.332+02:00That info was not confirmed. There are really many...That info was not confirmed. There are really many rumours floating out there, this will go onPlanethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909074465181413678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-35914562763334476022014-09-10T13:09:47.895+02:002014-09-10T13:09:47.895+02:00http://www.protothema.gr/article/408852/vrethikan-...http://www.protothema.gr/article/408852/vrethikan-duo-epigrafes-ston-tafo-tis-amfipolis/<br />The news happens day after day. I think I have read that are unusual inscriptions on the Macedonian tombs. We'll see if clarifies something about the occupant of the burial chamber (if there is or was someone)Borohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669230900195505765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-80510925404676999082014-09-10T12:05:07.005+02:002014-09-10T12:05:07.005+02:00Thank you, Planet, for this link to Charles Edson ...Thank you, Planet, for this link to Charles Edson findings in and around Pydna related to Olympias.<br />I was not aware of this author, so I'm happy to have found something new.<br />I agree that I too was under the impression that Olympias was murdered in Pydna, but I suppose one has to analyze the original ancient writings (which I can't) to shed more light on this. But, all in all, Chugg's theory is as plausible as many others we have heard over the past weeks.<br />Now the tomb at Amphipolis may fit Olympias very well. She was a powerful figure and still stood for the values that made Macedonians proud of their country and kings (Philip and Alexander). Roxane on the other hand was not "one on them" and I doubt they would have granted her such a grand burial site. But again, everything is possible.<br />Considering that Alexander's son is buried in Aegae (if we accept that it is him), it is not impossible that Olympias sooner or later received all the honors in Amphipolis. Cassander has the murder of both on his conscience but funeral rites were sacred, so ....<br />And, yes, I agree with you that based on what we know so far the scenario presented by Rogueclassicist seems most probable.Argyraspidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08284988922758243086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-51559446055954584.post-76082752382815570942014-09-10T01:29:34.065+02:002014-09-10T01:29:34.065+02:00Andrew Chugg's analyses are always very insigh...Andrew Chugg's analyses are always very insightful and nice to read, but I think in this case he bypasses too easily at least one important, possibly direct archaeological finding about Olympias being entombed at Pydna:<br /><br />http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/pdf/uploads/hesperia/146994.pdf<br /><br />That said, it doesn't mean that evidence for Olympias may not be found in the tomb, but i doubt this whole structure was initially made for her. One may always be creative and construct scenarios that Olympias was moved in there after Cassander died. Who knows.<br /><br />But maybe the question about to who does the tomb belong to has to be split in two:<br />-For whom do you think the tomb was made for?<br />-Do you think anyone else ended up inside?<br /><br />I still find the scenario by the Rogueclassicist the one that fits best the available (limited) evidence released by the press. Planethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909074465181413678noreply@blogger.com